tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4604150854065392576.post1565441933843044746..comments2023-07-21T08:27:31.016-06:00Comments on Alpha & Omega-Biblical Christianity for The Millennial Generation: Pre-Trib hypocrisy-Dave MacPhersonFredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08080302997906745300noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4604150854065392576.post-89281795313314067122009-01-28T16:17:00.000-06:002009-01-28T16:17:00.000-06:00(Here's a late web item I just collided with. Shoc...(Here's a late web item I just collided with. Shocked? Irv)<BR/><BR/>CHUCK MISSLER - COPYIST !<BR/><BR/>Many these days are abandoning the pretribulation rapture view, and the June, 1995 article by Chuck Missler (”Byzantine Text Discovery: Ephraem the Syrian”) reveals why there is such a mutiny! First of all, the authoritative scholar that Missler cited, Dr. Paul Alexander, referred only to “Pseudo-Ephraem” and not to Ephraem the Syrian. (If an unsigned ancient manuscript resembles the real Ephraem but there is a question of authorship, they assign it to “Pseudo-Ephraem” - the word “pseudo” meaning “possibly.” For some groundless reason, Grant Jeffrey, the one who reportedly found the “discovery,” changed Dr. Alexander’s terminology! For more info on Jeffrey, Google “Wily Jeffrey.”) And Missler’s scholarship is also questionable. According to the Los Angeles Times (July 30, 1992), about one-fourth of Missler’s 1992 book “The Magog Factor” (which he co-authored with Hal Lindsey) was a daring plagiarism of Dr. Edwin Yamauchi’s 1982 book “Foes from the Northern Frontier”! Four months later Yamauchi’s publisher revealed that both Lindsey and Missler had promised to stop all publishing of their book. But in 1995 they were found publishing “The Magog Invasion” (which was either a revision or a replacement of “The Magog Factor”) - which had a substantial amount of the same plagiarism! (Dave MacPherson’s 1998 book “The Three R’s” has complete documentation on this and other pretrib scandals.) After listing “1820″ as the reported date of the birth of pretrib (he should have said “1830″), Missler sees a pretrib rapture in that Medieval writer’s phrase “taken to the Lord” and, since he evidently favors rewriting others instead of researching, is unaware that Dr. Alexander explained that this phrase really means “participate at least in some measure in beatitude” - which has reference only to doing acts of virtue on earth and not being raptured away from earth! Alexander added that the same ancient writer held to only one final second coming (and not to any prior coming) which would follow the time of Antichrist! (Readers can Google “Deceiving and Being Deceived” by MacPherson to see how groundless the Pseudo-Ephraem claim is and to learn how desperate pretribs are to find any pre-1830 evidence for their escapist view. Dr. Robert Gundry of Westmont College has also demolished the Pseudo-Ephraem claim in his 1997 book “First the Antichrist.”) Since Missler also leans on Thomas Ice, readers can evaluate Ice’s qualifications by Googling “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun),” and “Pretrib Rapture Diehards” (the latter part). For further light on the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented pretribulation theory, Google or Yahoo “Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts.” Finally - why would anyone who has the brains of a rocket scientist want to be taken up with the concept of an any-moment pretrib rapture? The answer may well be that there’s more money in elevating a rapture than launching a rocket!Irvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07634792243846422285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4604150854065392576.post-51067202636228231642008-10-05T06:06:00.000-06:002008-10-05T06:06:00.000-06:00If you check back through my archives,you'll find ...If you check back through my archives,you'll find I have been attacking that sinking ship for a while! Glad you enjoyed it. Too bad I didn't write it! Enjoy some of the stuff I DID write.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080302997906745300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4604150854065392576.post-10777824523202288652008-10-04T13:44:00.000-06:002008-10-04T13:44:00.000-06:00[Thanks, Bro. Fred, for your great and much needed...[Thanks, Bro. Fred, for your great and much needed blog. What a coincidence that you featured a MacPherson article that is included by title in a "thermonuclear" blast I saw recently on the web that exposes the No. 1, facts-twisting, winning-any-way-I-can pretrib defender, Thomas Ice, who will be the last to leave the sinking pretrib "Titanic"! Here's the blast:]<BR/><BR/>AMERICA'S PRETRIB RAPTURE TRAFFICKERS<BR/><BR/> There are some who haven't been taken in by noisy pretrib rapture traffickers in America such as Thomas Ice. He's the "genius" (with a "Ph.D" from a Texas crackerbox that was fined for illegally issuing degrees, according to World Net Daily!) that LaHaye etc. count on to stiff-arm historian Dave MacPherson's fastidiously accurate research. (The late F. F. Bruce, world-class theologian and encyclopedia contributor who wrote a glowing Foreword to one of Dave's books, could find only one typo in it: an accidental listing of something like "Vol. I" instead of "Vol. II" on one page!) And his research of decades is highly endorsed (Google "Scholars Weigh My Research"). On the other hand, Ice's rapture-rush-job research includes sloppiness - Google "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" - as well as deviousness. In a 1990 article (in Dallas Seminary's journal Bibliotheca Sacra) on Margaret Macdonald, the long covered up pretrib originator, he quoted up to line 55 in her revelation explanation, deliberately skipped over her main point in lines 58-63 (where she saw "one taken and the other left" BEFORE the "WICKED" [II Thess. 2:8] is "revealed" - phrases even Hal Lindsey views as "pretrib" in his books!), and resumed his extensive quotation in line 72! Ice has knowingly repeated the same omission in later writings because he is aware of her (pretrib) partial rapturism (Google "X-Raying Margaret") which cancels out his falsehood that she was a posttrib - even though his former mentor, the late John Walvoord, stated in his books that partial rapturists ARE pretribs! Ice is just as devious with his Pseudo-Ephraem and Morgan Edwards claims (Google Dave's "Deceiving and Being Deceived") and lately - fearing neither God nor man - has been claiming to find pretrib rapturism in MANY pre-1830 writers (who were actually posttrib) simply because they used the word "rapture" (as if pretrib has a monopoly on this word!). Even Walvoord could find only a trio of ancient writers who seemed to support pretrib, but their support was seemingly the only kind of imminence Walvoord embraced - but was really no support at all since the rest of the quotation, which Walvoord chopped off, was posttrib through and through! Before anyone badmouths Dave's research, he or she should see his bestselling book "The Rapture Plot" (available for a great price at Armageddon Books online) or at least borrow it cheaply via inter-library loan at any library. Or even more cheaply Google his unique articles including "Famous Rapture Watchers," "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," "Walvoord's Posttrib Varieties - Plus," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Wily Jeffrey," "Thieves' Marketing," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," and "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism." PatrickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4604150854065392576.post-81267059825186316062008-10-03T16:10:00.000-06:002008-10-03T16:10:00.000-06:00I totally ripped this off the Tribulation Central ...I totally ripped this off the Tribulation Central website, including their Title banner- I hope this free advertizing doesn't offend them. It is meant to be complimentary advertizing. Rather than just give a link, I thought it deserved a full page! I probably should have sought permission, but shucks, I never do that.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080302997906745300noreply@blogger.com