Friday, July 11, 2008

The Athanasius Creed

The Creed of Athanasius

"1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. (if you're not Roman Catholic-everything listed here is meaningless)
2. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. (Again- only the RCC, and her daughters believes this-and they are patently wrong!)3. And the Catholic Faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, (Did you get that? This is the Catholic Faith---Believing in the trinity! To understand why , please read "The Two Babylons" by Alexander Hislop found in the links to the right. The RCC trinity is really about worshipping Nimrod-Semiramis, and Tammuz)4. neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance.
5. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. (Ed.1+1+1=3, not 1)6. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one, the Glory equal,
the Majesty co-eternal.
7. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost.
8. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated (Ed.-read Rev.3:14) , and the Holy Ghost uncreated.
9. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible. (Ed.-This definition incomprehensible)10. The Father eternal, the Son eternal (Ed- #22 below says the Son was begotten), and the Holy Ghost eternal.
11. And yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal.
12. As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible.
13. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty.
14. And yet they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty.
15. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God.
16. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. (Ed-But if they are separate persons, they can't be one, but three)17. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord.
18. And yet not three Lords, but one Lord.
19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, (Ed.-here they mean every Person of the Godhead, all three persons)20. so we are forbidden by the Catholic Religion, to say, there be three Gods,or three Lords. (Ed.-otherwise you may figure out the RCC is the new Babylon)21. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten.
22. The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. (Ed- #10 above says the Son is eternal...but now it says he was begotten)23. The Holy Ghost is of the Father [and of the Son], neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
25. And in this Trinity none is afore, or after other; none is greater, or less than another; (Ed.-Jesus said "The Father is greater than I")26. but the whole three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. (Ed.-except Sonship had a beginning, Jesus said the Father was greater than he, and Jesus was begotten by the Father, oops, I mean the Holy Ghost...oops I mean...oh just keep reading.)27. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped. (Then why do they worship Mary as the Queen of Heaven? Because she is really Semiramis- the old testament Queen of Heaven that God FORBADE Israel to worship!)
28. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.

The remainder is not found in all references-(Ed.)

29. Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
30. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.
31. God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds (a separate person...yet eternal?); and Man, of the Substance of His Mother, born in the world;
32. Perfect God and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul in human flesh subsisting;
33. Equal to the Father, as touching His Godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His Manhood.
34. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but one Christ;
35. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God;
36. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person.
37. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ.
38. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead.
39. He ascended into heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
40. At whose coming all men shall rise with their bodies and shall give account for their own works.
41. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.
42. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved. "

The TRUTH: "In the beginning" indicates that before the beginning there was only God, the eternal Spirit. The Beginnning of Creation was the begetting of an image of self expression, the image of the invisible God through which God created everything; Jesus tells us in Rev.3:14b that HE WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD! There had to be a reference point for creation to relate to- angels and men alike. God wanted to relate to us personally!

In the beginning God said,"Let there be light."

John 1: 9. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: whom also he made the worlds; 3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Col.1:12. Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13. Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14. In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Matt.1: 18. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Are we to believe Jesus has 2 fathers, the Father and the Holy Ghost? Is Jesus his own father? By believing the Trinity as espoused above, 3 separate "persons" creates ridiculous impossibilities. The only Trinity that can be found in the bible is explained in Col. 2:8-9...

8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy (carnally reasoned out) and vain (empty)deceit (lies), after the tradition of men (Roman Catholic Trinity), after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Is Jesus in the Godhead as explained by the Athanasius Creed (Roman Catholic Faith), or is the Godhead in Jesus, as the SCRIPTURES clearly state?

This explains why the apostles always baptized in Jesus name in obedience to Matt.28:19- 'Go into all the world, teaching and baptizing in the name of the Father , and the Son, and the Holy Ghost..." Acts 2:38 says repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin. Is there a conflict in the word of God, or just in the minds of (Roman Catholic, and her daughters) trinitarians?

As for me and my house, we will serve the lord!


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  2. Please read the power point presentations in the links to the left


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