Sunday, January 29, 2012

Orthodox vs Biblical Christianity


or·tho·dox  [awr-thuh-doks] 

1of, pertaining to, or conforming to the approved form of any doctrine, philosophy, ideology, etc.
2.of, pertaining to, or conforming to beliefs, attitudes, or modes of conduct that are generally approved.
3.customary or conventional, as a means or method; established.
4.sound or correct in opinion or doctrine, especially theological or religious doctrine.
5.conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of the early church.

Approved form...generally approved...customary, established...sound in religious represented in the creeds of the "early church"

The only definition should be #4- sound or correct in opinion or doctrine, especially theological or religious doctrine.  The only yardstick for sound doctrine in the Christian faith should be the bible.  Jesus said...

Matthew 15:
 8.  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
 9.  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 

In John 7 Jesus further stated:
16.  Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

At the beginning of the Church, orthodoxy was established further by the apostles.
Acts 2:
 38.  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
 39.  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

 40.  And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
 41.  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
 42.  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 

World English Dictionary-also found at
revisionism  (rɪˈvɪʒəˌnɪzəm) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]

1. ( sometimes capital )
a. a moderate, nonrevolutionary version of Marxism developed in Germany around 1900
b. (in Marxist-Leninist ideology) any dangerous departure from the true interpretation of Marx's teachings
2. the advocacy of revision of some political theory, religious doctrine, historical or critical interpretation, etc
3. ( usually capital ) an ultra-nationalist form of Zionism that arose in Palestine in the 1940s 

Religious revision has captured  the Christian faith by its being conquered by pagan Rome entering via emperor Constantine. 

Romans 16:
 17.  Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
 18.  For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 

Funny, that was written by the apostle Paul to the Roman Christians, and it was in Rome that Constantine's new brand of Christianity began the process of dividing the truth out of the doctrines of the church, supplanting them with creeds- the doctrines of men!  

When the Protestant movement finally began breaking away from many of the errors of the Roman church, they were mostly Roman clerics...trained in the Roman faith...and creeds.  Unfortunately they didn't get enough of Rome out of the emerging protestant church, and took Roman doctrines/creeds with them.  

Nowhere in scripture does it say the Godhead is 3 "persons".  Nowhere in scripture is found the phrase "God the Son" or "God the Holy Ghost".  The only thing we read about a "Queen of Heaven" is where God rebuked Israel for participating in the pagan practice! Read Jeremiah chapts.7 and  44.

Also read Alexander Hislop's  The Two Babylons, which can be found in the link list found in the right column. 

Currently, main stream "Christianity" attacks T. D. Jakes as a heretic, for not agreeing 100% with mainstream "trinitarians" and for not claiming to hold to the creeds and teachings of the "early church fathers".  (Since the original posting, T.D. Jakes has brought more of his true leanings into question for me, too! He is appearing with Oprah Winfrey by her request.  The true early church fathers were the original apostles, including Paul.

Church revisionism has made biblical Christianity heretical!  Rome's control over religious thought should be rejected by all protestant churches!  By quoting "early church fathers" as an authority when these same "fathers" are practitioners of pagan Rome can not be considered as valid if they are in disagreement with  scripture.  When any philosophy carries more weight than the bible, it is wrong!  Even if everybody accepts the error... it is still error!  If everybody accepts the error, by definition the accepted error is orthodoxy.

Colossians 2:
 8.  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 9.  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Matthew 7:
 13.  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
 14.  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 15.  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 16.  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 17.  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
 18.  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 19.  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
 20.  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 21.  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
 22.  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
 23.  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Various Quotes of the Roman Catholic Church:- 
Apology: I, in no way, wish to insult or offend followers of the Roman Catholic Faith, and believe there must be millions Catholics, and simple clergy who truly love Jesus, and are unaware of these statements. This is not an attempt to reflect poorly on their faith and love for Jesus and his word. However, I must share what the top officials in that institution honestly believe.

“The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of human flesh.” — Catholic National, July 1895.

“The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” — Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, “Cities Petrus Bertanous”.

“We hold upon this earth the place of God almighty.” — Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894.

“Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: “They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!” But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him.” — St. Catherine of Siena, SCS, p. 201-202, p. 222, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 5: “The Book of Obedience”, Chapter 1: “There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope”).

“The (Catholic) Church is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account we are bound to avoid them....Resist them in defense of the only true and life giving faith, which the Church has received from the Apostles and imparted to her sons.” — St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book III, (quoted in article “The Perennial Understanding of the Church”, by Saint Benedict Center).

“He is a heretic who does not believe what the Roman Hierarchy teaches.” — The American Textbook of Popery, p 164 (quoting from the “Directory for the Inquisitors”).

“Heretics (those who are not members of the Catholic Church or who do not hold to Catholic doctrine) worship a God who is a liar, and a Christ who is a liar.” — St. Augustine, (quoted in “Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graca”, by Fr. J. P. Migne, Paris: 1866, 42:207).

“The church may by divine right confiscate the property of heretics, imprison their person, and condemn them to flames. In our age, the right to inflict the severest penalties, even death, belongs to the church. There is no graver offense than heresy, therefore it must be rooted out.” — Public Eccliastical, Vol. 2, p.142.

“When confronted with heresy, she (Catholic Church) does not content herself with persuasion, arguments of an intellectual and moral order appear to her insufficient, and she has recourse to force, to corporal punishment, to torture.” — The Rector of the Catholic Institute of Paris, H.M.A. Baudrillart, quoted in The Catholic Church, The Renaissance, and Protestantism 182-183.

“A heretic merits the pains of fire....By the Gospel, the canons, civil law, and custom, heretics must be burned.” — The American Textbook of Popery, p 164 (quoting from the “Directory for the Inquisitors”).

“The Pope is of great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws. The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth...” — Lucius Ferraris, in “Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica”, Volume V, article on “Papa, Article II”, titled “Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility”, #30, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

“We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God....dissolves, not by human but rather by divine authority....I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do...Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ.” — Decretales Domini Gregori ix Translatione Episcoporum, (on the Transference of Bishops), title 7, chapter 3; Corpus Juris Canonice (2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), col. 99; (Paris, 1612), tom. 2, Decretales, col. 205 (while Innocent III was Pope).

“We confess that the Pope has power of changing Scripture and of adding to it, and taking from it, according to his will.” — Roman Catholic Confessions for Protestants Oath, Article XI, (Confessio Romano-Catholica in Hungaria Evangelicis publice praescripta te proposita, editi a Streitwolf), as recorded in Congressional Record of the U.S.A., House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, Feb. 15, 1913.

“And God himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of his priest and either not to pardon or to pardon, according as they refuse to give absolution, provided the penitent is capable of it.” — St. Alphonsus De Liguori, in The Dignity of the Priesthood, p. 27.

“Unless therefore they receive saving baptism in the Catholic Church, which is one, they cannot be saved, but will be condemned with the carnal in the judgment of the Lord Christ.” — Catholic Bishop Nemesianus of Thubunae, The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. V.

“When we say that faith is necessary for the remission of sins, we mean to speak of the Catholic faith, not heretical faith. Without the habit of this faith, no man is justified.” — St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 3: “The Book of Faith”, Chapter 1, “There is No Salvation Except in the Catholic Faith”).

For a better understanding of the Godhead- trinity(?) / Baptism according to scripture, not tradition, go here:
To better understand what the apostles taught as the "Gospel" go here:
To better understand the "Roman Road to Salvation" in scriptural perspective, go here:
Is the Roman Catholic Church  really "Mystery Babylon"? go here:
For a comparison of "Mystery Babylon and Biblical Christianity go here
Being "orthodox" in your faith doesn't make you right, or even really in the New Testament "Church." 


  1. You are right to distinguish between what is orthodox and what is biblical. And, of course, you are right that it is better to be biblical than to be orthodox. The question I have to ask you, however, is this: "Have you just exchanged one set of orthodoxy for another?"

    Where is Christ in your scheme? Do you love Him above all? Are you will to forsake all others to cling to Him? Is you first love your current love? That is, have you grown in Him or have you grown away from Him?

    You don't have to answer me - but He is calling you to answer Him.

  2. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
    In my "scheme", Christ is the almighty God, creator of everything. I have given myself to Him and His word. I have turned my back on falseness, darkness, everything contrary to His word, to the best of my knowledge. I will doubtless come to fuller revelation, and continue to repent and walk further into the light until the end.

    Nothing less is repentance, and that is the 1st step in His plan of salvation, after believing! Repent, be baptized in Jesus name, and receive the infilling of the Holy Ghost...which is "Christ in you, the hope of glory!

  3. There is a plan of salvation, that has been supplanted by the worldly church. Acts 2:38- the same message preached by Peter and Paul to plant the churches originally. If you do not present that plan of salvation in your blog, you do a disservice to your readers. Nice blog, by the way!


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